My dad and his dad and brother raised Dora and pincers in Oklahoma when he was a boy this was from 1935. my dad was 18 and 1946. cuz all about Durham Pinschers famous silver and pincers leading doms and their winning get which children and pictures of famous ones and what to look for to make define no divine good Doberman from August holy man alive he's a dog world complete all breed monthly dog magazine and when this was sent out to send to my granddad and Sulfur Oklahoma. this book is 88 years old.